[ Cale is quiet for a moment, if only because he is trying to think. How can they do convince him to go along with something and not immediately decline... ]
We'd have to spin it in such a way that it sounds like he is doing us a favor. That he is wanted and him being there will make us happier for it.
[ By now, Phainon's room is probably more so than Cale's... And he doesn't want to tell Dorothea that they wouldn't even really know if something troubles Phainon at all until it's maybe too late. ]
We could, yes. The other question is do we want anything that might help with the relaxation.
[ The oils, the teas, all of them laced with something? It's not as though they'd be difficult to get; one can't go far without tripping over someone offering them. ]
I feel we could have them on offer but...I would want Phainon to be all right with their use. It shouldn't be sprung on him.
[ It's not as though Phainon won't be safe between the two of them. And of course she knows Cale would never be so lecherous without a partner's consent. But... ]
I just didn't think he would be willing. It could help, potentially.
[ It might put all of them in a spot, though. That's what those errant thoughts say, balking at the idea of being out of control, though she tries to believe that she would never not be safe with Phainon and Cale. (That's what she hopes is true.) ]
To be honest, I don't know how receptive he actually is to that sort of thing. While I also want him to know that he doesn't always have to worry about being a means to someone else's enjoyment, I don't know that he allows anyone to convince him of that.
I don't know that he will be receptive to it at all, so we might as well prepare for it to not work out this time. It just means we'll have to keep pushing ever so slowly until he opts to hear it.
[ Dorothea holds back a sigh, not wanting to sound like a defeatist about it. ]
He may never accept it. But that doesn't mean we can't keep reminding him.
I didn't think about that. I... I don't want him to do that with us if he feels he can't refuse. Even though we wouldn't be twisting his arm about it, I don't want to be with someone who feels coerced, even if they don't see it that way. This place takes enough control from us as it is.
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[ And for all that this is playful, wanting to goad Phainon into a good time and to take care of him, it's still something she's concerned about. ]
I'm glad. I think you know him better than I do, so... How do you suppose we can get him interested enough to not immediately decline?
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We'd have to spin it in such a way that it sounds like he is doing us a favor. That he is wanted and him being there will make us happier for it.
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[ Phainon has a way of helping one forget about their concerns for a time, which is why it's worth it to her to extend the same courtesy to him. ]
We could invite him for a night in. Or, you could, since you have the lavish rooms now.
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We could, yes. The other question is do we want anything that might help with the relaxation.
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[ The oils, the teas, all of them laced with something? It's not as though they'd be difficult to get; one can't go far without tripping over someone offering them. ]
I feel we could have them on offer but...I would want Phainon to be all right with their use. It shouldn't be sprung on him.
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[ He wouldn't do anything without consent. Hell, he wouldn't even touch Dorothea lustfully without that prior. ]
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[ It's not as though Phainon won't be safe between the two of them. And of course she knows Cale would never be so lecherous without a partner's consent. But... ]
I just didn't think he would be willing. It could help, potentially.
[ It might put all of them in a spot, though. That's what those errant thoughts say, balking at the idea of being out of control, though she tries to believe that she would never not be safe with Phainon and Cale. (That's what she hopes is true.) ]
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[ Maybe he'll just have it on hand. Just in case. ]
Do you want me to shoot you a message after I talk to him?
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[ girl please stop raiding places in the resort for their wine, you have chips ]
I...just want him to know he's enjoyed. And that he doesn't always have to hold himself back. Not for the people who care about him.
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[ Cale hums, fingers tapping against the table. ]
To be honest, I don't know how receptive he actually is to that sort of thing. While I also want him to know that he doesn't always have to worry about being a means to someone else's enjoyment, I don't know that he allows anyone to convince him of that.
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[ Dorothea holds back a sigh, not wanting to sound like a defeatist about it. ]
He may never accept it. But that doesn't mean we can't keep reminding him.
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[ A sigh. ]
But you're not wrong. We can keep reminding him. For as long as it takes.
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I didn't think about that. I... I don't want him to do that with us if he feels he can't refuse. Even though we wouldn't be twisting his arm about it, I don't want to be with someone who feels coerced, even if they don't see it that way. This place takes enough control from us as it is.
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You might be better equipped to handle that than me.
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[ Pain in the ass (affectionate) ]
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[ But they can keep trying... ]